Post by shamrock75 on Mar 23, 2014 21:39:29 GMT -5
I don't believe in any climate change non sense.It's good to have short term prep supplies for natural disasters,they've been happening since the beginning of time.Anything funded by our present Us progressive government can't be trusted so any "scientific" reports should be disregarded as fodder.Just being prepared for the obvious is most important.
Post by KevinTheCynic on Mar 25, 2014 1:50:29 GMT -5
There's no doubt in my mind that climate does change over the course of time and our perception of the climate changes over time as well. We judge everything by a calendar but our calendar is not entirely accurate (anything that has to add an extra day every four years obviously has some room for slippage). We'd be far better off judging the year by the summer and winter solstice but that's too old school for most. In my own lifetime I recall seeing the high heat of summer start later and later (in my part of the world the highest temp days began at about mid-December, now it starts around late-January) - the world hasn't changed, nature hasn't changed, it's just that our calendar simply is not accurate enough to keep up with the climate.
There's also no doubt in my mind that humans can effect the climate (London smog, acid rain anyone?) however I also recall being taught in high school (which was several decades ago) that we are living at the very end of an ice age and the climate was expected to gradually warm over the next few hundred years. And do you know what the biggest source of atmospheric carbon (i.e. carbon dioxide, AKA CO2) - the oceans. Cold seawater absorbs carbon dioxide but when it warms it releases the CO2. How the hell do the climate change messiahs expect to deal with that... oh yeah, that's right, they'll charge everyone a carbon tax. How does a carbon tax stop carbon dioxide exactly? The money raised by these taxes and fines certainly hasn't been used very well if it's meant for stopping carbon pollution. Back in the old days of the 1960s-80s period, they used to level hefty fines against companies that produced too much pollution and even shut some companies down. Why aren't they doing that now, shutting down polluters? Oh that's right, because someone like Al Gore has business interests in some of those companies.
Somewhere in the middle of all this is the truth but one thing I can see very clearly, there's a lot of money being made by individuals and companies who claim we are changing the climate and some of the people who have protested against these climate change messiahs have been told to shut up - Dr David Bellamy was shunned because he doubted the claims of climate change as proposed by these messiahs, then he was ostracised for arguing that BOTH sides of the argument should be examined.
The truth is out there but it won't be found in the mouths of those with vested interests in the profitable side of climate change.
"Had I been informed of the impending apocalypse, I'da stocked up" -- Dale, The Walking Dead TV series, Season 1 Episode 4
"There are no bad ideas, just a lack of will to execute them." -- Charlie Harper, Two and a Half Men TV series.
"Engines stop running, but I have no fear, 'Cause London is drowning, and I, I live by the river" 'London Calling', 1979 The Clash
School summer holidays where I live have been moved two weeks since I was in school (20+ years ago) to accommodate the changes in summer time. Warm weather comes later in the year and winter has become warmer. This winter we've had about five days of snowfall. In fucking Denmark. That's not right. The world undergo changes all the time but most often on a timescale that is too big for humans to perceive and we've only done scientific measurements of the weather and it's patterns for about 150 years or so which means that the changes we see might very well just be a part of a natural cycle. The truth about will be hard to uncover since there are monetary interests on both sides of the fence and in this world money rules. Which is also why the world is falling apart. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I'm just glad that if I make it out of the city I have the skills to survive (under many conditions), the question is if I'll make it out of the city
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