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Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #2 on Feb 14, 2011, 4:22pm »
Wow! That's interesting, and some parts on that graph suprised me. I like living in the UK however. Where ever you go there are 'dangerous' people but I've never had any problems with saftey.
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Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #5 on Feb 14, 2011, 6:21pm »
I'm not surprised, I've seen exactly the same kind of "facts" in Australian newspapers and according to the media here DownUnder, we are the most crime-riddled nation on Earth. It looks to me like a typical conservative newspaper story to shake up their conservative readers so that they'll buy more newspapers.
A lot of these sorts of comparisons done by the media are a bit , how you would say, free, with their data. It's typically exaggerated to make their news story sound even more important than it really is. For example, Mexico doesn't even rate a mention but according to some studies, has more violent crime than anywhere else in North America and they haven't even touched on the crime in the slums of Brazil. I see they don't state specifically where they got their figures from, they just give some hazy reference that appears to be good on the surface. Personally I think this is just another case of 'inflated journalism', scare the public so they'll buy more newspapers so that they can supposedly find out what's going on.
Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #6 on Feb 15, 2011, 8:05am »
Firstly- The Daily Mail is a rag and a joke, don't trust anything it says as it is well known for trying to stir things up with things like this. If you're going to keep starting these anti-UK threads please use a better source for your information.
Secondly- why are you so obsessed with crime in the UK anyway?
Thirdly- Why are you glad to live in the US when you said yourself in a previous post that you are afraid of people breaking into your house and killing you, even though you are surrounded by weapons? I could happily leave my door unlocked tonight and I have no weapons in the house and I would sleep well knowing that I am in minimal danger. I feel safe in the UK, even wandering around London in the dead of night I feel far, far safer than I have done doing the same thing in Paris and Barcelona- especially Barcelona which was not a safe feeling city at all- gangs on men following us around, pick pockets everywhere, prostitution in broad daylight etc, very little police presence at all. It really felt as if the Spanish government just didn't give a toss about the amount of crime. Newcastle on a Friday night might be rough but you WILL see a lot of police cars and ambulances standing by, ready for when the stag dos and hen parties get carried away.
Crime figures are difficult to compare on an international level- there are countries who will come off better than they in fact are, for example Japan probably comes across as having relatively few rapes, but then you read about the organised 'rape parties' where women are gang raped and too ashamed to report it and men gloat about how many they have been to and how many women they have waited in line to rape. Likewise any country with a corrupt government or police may never reveal full figures. How many people in the world do you think just 'disappear' with no record of what happened to them?
Also, what is a 'violent crime'? I'd only consider murder, rape and GBH violent crimes but what are the statistics in that paper referring to? Is chucking an egg at someone a 'violent crime'? Is a drunken bar room brawl with no lasting damage to either party a 'violent crime'? After I had my wallet and camera stolen back in October I was surprised to receive a letter inviting me to a 'victim support group.' I was not the victim of a heinous crime but to receive that letter makes me wonder whether my property theft has somehow put me onto a database of victims of serious crime. Compare this with my trip to Barcelona, where in a group of around 50 students about 20 people had wallets and bags stolen, of course we were there for just a week, could not speak much Spanish, did not see any police anywhere and so none of those events were reported. I've been a victim of just 2 crimes, and my family home a 3rd, and all were reported to the police- 3 reported crimes in the UK, 20 unreported crimes in Barcelona- so the UK would statistically look worse, when clearly it isn't.
If the UK is the 'worst' then why, according to that very same chart, is it ranked number 13 in homicide rates in the EU (let alone the rest of the world) and 4th and 5th respectively for burglary and robbery (since when was burglary a violent crime anyway). Their own chart doesn't really make sense and offers very little information about the kinds of violence that are apparently such a huge problem.
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Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #7 on Feb 15, 2011, 9:52pm »
Thats nice, I live in the US so how would I know or give a fuck?
I wasn't aware that I was, Im just posting stuff that I find and want to post.
Because I am a citizen in the country with beautiful landscapes, kind people, and rights that are supposed to be for the people. There are of course black sheep's that ruin it for people, but I do feel other than the fact that I do have a bit of paranoia because I have had things happen to me to loss faith in humanity. I have faith in my country for the most part but I am not blindly faithful, that is a part of the reason I own guns. Also there are towns where you can walk down a street and now you are completely safe. Celebration was one such town till it had its first murder last year, the town was built by Disney. There are plenty of places in the US were it's "safe" but in reality no place on the planet it totally safe.
More than ever, we got TWO cities on that!!! FREAKING SWEAT!!!
Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #8 on Feb 17, 2011, 2:53am »
I'd much rather live in a country where everyone has guns instead of a nanny state that denies people health coverage because they get in a wreck while trying to eat a sandwich while driving in a supposedly free for all medical system, and said image is captured by the omnipresent CCTV cameras. The American settlement of the western territories proves that more guns equals less crime, everything we 'know' about the West and the cowboys was advertised by Wild West shows looking to drum up added attention, which then spilled over into movies.
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Re: This is why I live in the US « Reply #9 on Feb 18, 2011, 2:28am »
I must admit to being a tad confused as to this current little run of anti-British sentiment.
As others have said that Daily Mail is only really one or two steps up the ladder from the US 'Daily Enquier' and can be relyed on to ALWAYS go with the negative on almost any and every story. Its a running joke about how many ways it claims you can get cancer.
You live in the US. Smashing. I live in the UK. Ditto. And others live in other places. C'est la vie.
And unless you have emigrated then its all just an accident of birth anyway.
Now I have a lot of love in my heart for my North American 'mishpokhe' but its obvious that our respective cultures are very different and that both also have a lot within them that confuse the other.
I mean, all that pancakes and syrup with bacon for breakfast ? Whats that all about ?
I must admit to being a tad confused as to this current little run of anti-British sentiment.
As others have said that Daily Mail is only really one or two steps up the ladder from the US 'Daily Enquier' and can be relyed on to ALWAYS go with the negative on almost any and every story. Its a running joke about how many ways it claims you can get cancer.
You live in the US. Smashing. I live in the UK. Ditto. And others live in other places. C'est la vie.
And unless you have emigrated then its all just an accident of birth anyway.
Now I have a lot of love in my heart for my North American 'mishpokhe' but its obvious that our respective cultures are very different and that both also have a lot within them that confuse the other.
I mean, all that pancakes and syrup with bacon for breakfast ? Whats that all about ?
And as far as we're concerned here on the Down Under side of the planet, we live in the best place on Earth, we have the best beer, we have the nastiest animals on Earth and you lot in the Northern Hemisphere are all as mad as a cut snake! Crikey!
I must admit to being a tad confused as to this current little run of anti-British sentiment.
As others have said that Daily Mail is only really one or two steps up the ladder from the US 'Daily Enquier' and can be relyed on to ALWAYS go with the negative on almost any and every story. Its a running joke about how many ways it claims you can get cancer.
You live in the US. Smashing. I live in the UK. Ditto. And others live in other places. C'est la vie.
And unless you have emigrated then its all just an accident of birth anyway.
Now I have a lot of love in my heart for my North American 'mishpokhe' but its obvious that our respective cultures are very different and that both also have a lot within them that confuse the other.
I mean, all that pancakes and syrup with bacon for breakfast ? Whats that all about ?
And as far as we're concerned here on the Down Under side of the planet, we live in the best place on Earth, we have the best beer, we have the nastiest animals on Earth and you lot in the Northern Hemisphere are all as mad as a cut snake! Crikey!
Things that live in Australia would have been made extinct in the northern hemisphere by roving bands of flamethrower weilding volunteers.
Now I have a lot of love in my heart for my North American 'mishpokhe' but its obvious that our respective cultures are very different and that both also have a lot within them that confuse the other.
I mean, all that pancakes and syrup with bacon for breakfast ? Whats that all about ?
What's all that barely cooked baked bacon and beans for breakfast all about?
What's all that barely cooked baked bacon and beans for breakfast all about?
Not sure about the 'barely' cooked bacon as I rather like mine well done and nice and crispy but never mock the humble 'baked bean'.
It many ways its the ultimate survival food in a tin. Delicious when cold, full of protein and easily transformed with some pepper or chilli into a spicy treat that suits many palates.
Whilst you septics are fretting about whether a your guns will have enough ammunition to keep you able to shoot any fellow survivors who are unfortunate to wonder into your paranoid powered sniperscopes when the SHTF, us Brits will be concerned about ensuring we have enough of these babies stocked up...
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